[identity profile] fyrie.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] hunters_forest
So, I come and bring forth the first part of my new fic:

The Hands of Lazarus (1/?)
Spoilers: All of Coldfire.
Disclaimer: All belongs to C.S. Friedman. And instigation is [livejournal.com profile] bwinter's fault. All publicly recognizable characters, settings, plot, etc. are the property of C. S. Friedman. The original characters, settings and plot are the property of the artist/author. The artist/author is in no way associated with C. S. Friedman and no copyright infringement is intended. This work is an amateur fan effort and no profit is being made.
Rating: PG13+ (and increasing by the section)
Notes: I was told a lot of Coldfire fans did fix-its after the ending. Who am I to deny my destiny? :P

Date: 2006-04-10 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fuumasfrog.livejournal.com
Very nice work, I'm looking forward to read more; Damien and Riven sure make a explosive combination. Please continue soon! ^^

Date: 2006-04-11 08:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fuumasfrog.livejournal.com
Yeah, but... that's Riven! I don't know why nobody seems to notice, but the guy called Riven Forrest and the stranger in the last chapter of CoS are one and the same.

Are Gerald Tarrant and Riven Forest the same person?
"The enigmatic figure appearing in the last section is in fact the new GT, surviving according to the conditions he discusses with Damien. Since one of those conditions is that he utterly sacrifice his old identity, to the degree that even admitting to his own name will undo the sacrifice, these details must be discussed third person; but Damien recognizes enough of GT's mannerisms to know what has happened."


That's what Ms Friedman says in her faq...

Date: 2006-04-11 09:05 am (UTC)
winter: (Default)
From: [personal profile] winter
Hmm. Then why is Riven pale while new!Gerald is olive-skinned?

Also, note:

"Riven Forrest is GT's son by the Iezu mother. His aspect is clearly that emotional domain connected with GT's Hunt, which did include a lost of his sadistic instincts, need to feed on humans, etc. Devoid of these characteristics, GT is now free to become something else...whether it is better remains to be seen. The term "dad" is not metaphoric at all, but quite literal. The giveaway here is that while GT the Hunter was interested solely in hunting humans, and particularly obsessed with hunting women, Forrest, as a Iezu, feeds on the hunt in all its aspects....as evidenced by the things in the new store he manages. "

And the last section referred to is the last scene of the book, in Black Ridge Inn. Where we have new!Gerald, not Riven.

Date: 2006-04-11 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carmentalis.livejournal.com
The one at the end is the new Gerald - how he ended up that way is every reader's and fanfiction writer's mystery to solve. It's still Gerald, that much is plain from the mannerisms and all, and also from that FAQ entry.

Riven, on the other hand, is markedly different. Take a look at the speech patterns, those alone don't quite fit Gerald. And he's a Iezu, something I'm sure Damien would have noticed about the visitor in the last chapter. Add to that the differences in appearance, and you end up with two separate characters.

(wondering whether this should go into a separate post for discussion)

Date: 2006-04-11 11:56 am (UTC)
alice_montrose: by me (Default)
From: [personal profile] alice_montrose
There's no need for discussion, really. Mrs. Friendman makes it clear that Riven and the new Gerald are two different persons - in the same FAQ quoted. We should believe her, no?

Date: 2006-04-11 11:55 am (UTC)
alice_montrose: by me (Gerald Tarrant)
From: [personal profile] alice_montrose
Riven and Gerald are two different persons, according to Mrs. Friedman herself. Please read all of the Coldfire FAQ on Merentha.org all right? Or [livejournal.com profile] bwinter's comment above, since it's taken from the same source.

Date: 2006-04-11 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fuumasfrog.livejournal.com
Since I'm still confused as hell, I took the easiest way and wrote to Ms Friedman. Maybe you are all right, but I still think different... I'll post her answer in a new post in the community.

Date: 2006-04-11 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ariss-tenoh.livejournal.com
Not to sound harsh or anything, but all those people commenting aren't going to lie or mislead you deliberately^_^

Date: 2006-04-11 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fuumasfrog.livejournal.com
Yeah, I know, but it still doesn't make sense for me, that's why. ^^ Maybe I'm just stubborn. Don't mind me, please ^^

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